PODCAST: From Burnout to Breakthrough: The Real Estate Reset Agents Need
- Jul 14
- 4 min read

🎙️ Welcome to this episode of The Chat, proudly brought to you by Real Estate Today.
Today, Nic Fren sits down with the powerhouse behind The Evolution Agent — Tanja Lee, Chief Energy Officer, leadership coach, and one of the most in-demand mindset mentors in the business.
In this unmissable episode, we dive deep into the real issues facing agents and property managers right now — from the fear of prospecting to the real reason your team isn’t picking up the phone.
Tanja unpacks the three stages of stress, why positive thinking isn’t always the answer, and how to rewire your brain to get back in flow. If you're in leadership, sales, or property management — this one’s for you.
Here’s what we cover:
🕒 Time Stamps
00:30 – Who is Tanja Lee?
03:30 – The biggest shifts in the industry over the past decade
04:05 – What The Evolution Agent is all about
05:38 – Why "just prospect more" is the wrong leadership strategy
08:40 – Are you in flow… or survival mode?
10:30 – Why mindset alone won’t move the needle
10:55 – Why the industry is struggling right now
14:30 – The mounting stress on property managers
16:30 – Why Tanja’s tools and methods hit differently
17:55 – The three types of stress you must understand
19:35 – What stress is doing to sales agents on a neurological level
21:50 – How your energy impacts your clients
25:30 – What Real eSTATE of Mind is — and why it’s a game changer
Watch the Interview Here
The real estate and property industry across Australia and New Zealand is set to experience a transformation as multi-award-winning Neuro Change Solutions Consultant, HeartMath Consultant and the CEO of The Evolution Agents, Tanja Lee introduces the groundbreaking training designed to unlock the full potential of real estate and property professionals.
“Burnout, anxiety, and emotional fatigue have become normalized within the real estate and property industry across Australia and New Zealand. But normal is not the same as natural. - Tanja Lee
Recent data from The MRI Real Estate Leaders Outlook 2024 National Research Report and The Voice of the Property Manager Report 2024 reveals a stark internal perspective:
57% of leaders express feelings of burnout or not coping with the workload.
60% of property managers report daily challenges with aggressive clients.
47% of agents experience physical symptoms of stress and anxiety.
And a staggering 29% of property managers are actively considering leaving the industry.
“Many people in our industry are often running on overdrive—physically functioning, yet somewhat emotionally and energetically bankrupt, which is unfavourable and completely unsustainable.” - Tanja Lee
THE CURRENT REALITY
Leaders are carrying dual burdens—working both in and on the business - struggling to bridge strategy and survival, innovation and stress whilst holding people accountable
Agents are exposed to constant rejection, working in a competitive environment that demands high performance without the necessary architecture for personal excellence.
Property Managers are forced to be therapeutic problem solvers, unconsciously absorbing aggression from both rental providers and renters with no real buffer or break, struggling to regulate their emotions and trying not to take things personally.
“This isn’t a productivity issue. It’s a patterned nervous system response—and it’s costing the industry, its people and agencies their financial futures” - Tanja Lee
“As leaders, it’s our job to face the truth: burnout has become the baseline across our industry, and that’s unacceptable. We can’t build a sustainable future on exhausted teams and short-term wins. Real Estate Today is supporting this initiative because meaningful change starts with prioritising the wellbeing and resilience of our people — not just their performance.” – Nic Fren, Founder & CEO, Real Estate Today
THE INVITATION:
In response, we are thrilled to announce the launch of: PROJECT CHANGE - YOUR REAL eSTATE of MIND.
This initiative, led by Tanja Lee includes a two-day Neuroscience based training program designed by international best selling author, researcher and lecturer, Dr. Joe Dispenza.
“This isn’t about positive thinking, mindset hacks or motivational hype. This is about neurogenesis. The ability to rewire the brain, regulate the body, and re-establish internal coherence to improve the quality of our personal and professional lives and consumer service experiences.
Neuroscience is the study of how our brain and nervous system affect our thinking, actions and emotional states and the way we interact with our environment. We believe his is a time in history when it’s not enough to simply know the problems and impacts: this is a time to know how to create sustainable change.” - Tanja Lee
Participants will learn how to:
Transform daily stress into embodied resilience
Build courage from within—regardless of outcomes or client feedback
Improve cognitive functionality and decision making abilities
Shift the way they think, act and feel and create new states of excellence
Lead from a place of energetic alignment, not reactive stress and survival
Create high performing cultures and engaged teams inspired to collaborate
Improved abilities to build rapport with clients and convert more opportunities
RECEIVE A FULL TRAINING SCHOLARSHIP
In collaboration with Real Estate Today, The Evolution Agents are offering a limited number of full training scholarships for upcoming sessions in across Perth and Melbourne, more cities to be announced soon.
HOW TO ENTER
Simply write in 25 words or less why you would like full training scholarship (valued at $1,699+GST)
This is for real estate professionals who want to fulfil their potential and achieve their goals, whilst taking care of their health, wellbeing and longevity.
Successful applicants will be notified one week prior to each event.
TO FIND OUT MORE AND BOOK YOUR SEAT FOR AN UPCOMING TRAINING
Visit: www.theevolutionagents.com
Inquiries: Tanja Lee - tanja@theevolutionagents.com
This training is limited to 26 per session and is for those who want to lead the future of this industry, not from stress and burnout but from neurological and biological balance.
As a proud partner of Project Change, Real Estate Today is pleased to offer the following exclusive code to our valued community and clients.
We believe in the importance of this work, and we’re committed to making it more accessible to those ready to lead with resilience, clarity, and purpose.
Please use and share the promo code below to receive $250 off the ticket price:
REAL ESTATE TODAY PROMO CODE: RET250
Let’s be part of the change — together.

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